# A couple of questions **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [May 2, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/a-couple-of-questions/5147 "2019-05-02T14:16:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Isaiah\_40\_31](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/isaiah_40_31/32/3054_2.png) [@Isaiah\_40\_31](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Isaiah_40_31)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 4:14am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/a-couple-of-questions/5147/21 "2019-05-06T04:14:51Z")
DeniseD - Good to hear you’re healing well and feel encouraged by the positive changes you’re already seeing! Yes! Getting the second side done when you can will make a big difference in continuing to help you fully recover from ES. 🌻 ---
**Author:** ![Duck8384](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Duck8384](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Duck8384)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 11:52am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/a-couple-of-questions/5147/22 "2019-05-06T11:52:01Z")
Thanks for the advice. I have had and still have the pain in my throat, the feeling that I can’t swallow. I kept telling myself it was allergies. I’ve been to an urgent care dr, my dr., 2 different neurologists (one specialized in headaches), an ENT, a chiropractor and my dentist numerous times since December. I’ve had two different MRIs, a spinal tap and a CBCT scan performed. I would self diagnose. The ear pain, I would dismiss as water in my ear from showering. The neck pain, I thought was because of the way I would sit when at work. The non-ending headache is what got my attention! I never get headaches! I was being treated for TMJ, I kept asking everyone I was seeing if the could explain the numbness. No one had a reason for it until the CBCT results came back with ES. My dentist put all of my symptoms together. I can’t believe you had both sides done at the same time. I feel like I’ve lost so much this year. Can’t imagine having the symptoms for 17 years before treatment. I know I’ve had several syptoms for a while now. They just weren’t bad enough to stop me. ---
**Author:** ![DeeG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@DeeG](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/DeeG)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/a-couple-of-questions/5147/23 "2019-05-06T17:31:02Z")
Yes, thanks Hadassa. I have tried to work this methodically and logically, but now I am over the baby steps of getting over my pain. Is OU doctor on the doctors list? I have more than 20 years of tests, diagnosis sheets and failed treatments and I want to have a chance at feeling better. Forget waiting until after vacation, after g-baby birth… I want a review as soon as I can get one. I would go anywhere, but the other experts are too far for me to ask friends to take that kind of trip, but OK distance is fine for me and a friend to travel. If doctor is not on list can you give details. If not, no worries, I will look up. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Jules](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/jules/32/404_2.png) [@Jules](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Jules)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/a-couple-of-questions/5147/24 "2019-05-06T19:52:41Z")
Dr Greg Krempl is on the list (but I spelt his name wrong!!); Stephenson Cancer Center/ OU Physicians Otorhinlaryngology Clinic, Oaklahoma City. (need a physicians referral) ---
**Author:** ![Hadassa](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/hadassa/32/697_2.png) [@Hadassa](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Hadassa)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/a-couple-of-questions/5147/25 "2019-05-06T23:02:42Z")
He is on the list. Greg Krempl. I saw him this past January and asked him to continue working with ES. He said he would. He is booked at least 2 months. ---
**Author:** ![Hadassa](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/hadassa/32/697_2.png) [@Hadassa](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Hadassa)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/a-couple-of-questions/5147/26 "2019-05-06T23:12:42Z")
Jules, I think that OU changed that “referral” policy? When I saw him back in January, I also thought that I still had to get a referral. Since I had not seen him since 2004, I had not made an appt. because in the past, I had to have a referral. This time I just picked up the phone and made an appt. They told me that since I had not seen him since 2004, it would be like coming in as a new patient. Remember, I had a referral from my gynecologist back in 2004. I had such a good visit with him and I thanked him for diagnosing me back in 2004. He didn’t even send me a bill. He will continue to diagnose ES because I told him we really need him. My life changed drastically after I had the surgery. I hope DeeG can get the help. A friend of mine told me she used to work for OU Physicians and that they had dropped the referral rule??? ---
**Author:** ![Jules](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/jules/32/404_2.png) [@Jules](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Jules)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 6:23am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/a-couple-of-questions/5147/27 "2019-05-07T06:23:37Z")
Okay, thanks Hadassa, it was noted on the last doctors list so I just carried it over, I’ll alter it! [Previous page](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/a-couple-of-questions/5147.md?page=1)