# Medical Marijuana - general information

**URL:** <https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907>\
**Category:** Complimentary Therapies\
**Created:** [September 13, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907 "2020-09-13T21:28:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![JPB](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/jpb/32/5614_2.png) [@JPB](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/JPB)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 7:37am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/21 "2022-08-17T07:37:39Z")

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I noticed that this thread ended almost a year ago, but I am curious if others experienced discomfort from CBD/THC pills to treat Eagles. I have been told from MDs, and others of the benefit for use in the evening, but it would seem that throat irritation would likely result if using CBD/THC pills and complicate ES with more throat tightness.

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**Author:** ![Michael123](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/michael123/32/5587_2.png) [@Michael123](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Michael123)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 11:28am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/22 "2022-08-17T11:28:07Z")

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A dry herb pipe. Is also good and you get abv which you can also add that to food like peanut butter and jelly or pudding .You can also make tincture with the abv like you said only medical

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**Author:** ![TheDude](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/thedude/32/3071_2.png) [@TheDude](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/TheDude)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/23 "2022-08-17T16:54:58Z")

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Hi JPB,

Unfortunately from my own experience I must say that it is not that easy when it comes to Cannabis for pain treatment. There are different so called “strains” that all contain mostly THC but might have completely different effects depending on the strain. I’d be careful with edibles and pills for beginners as an overdose might easily occur making you feel worse then. That lasts for a much longer time then compared to inhaled vape or smoke.  
Since I found my helpful strains and got a bit used to the side effects, that become less over time, Cannabis provides some good relief for my symptoms. Adding CBD can also reduce side effects of THC and in higher doses (120 mg/d) also works against nerve pain. I’m using CBD Oil in capsules with 40 mg each. Never experienced negative effects from that.

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**Author:** ![JPB](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/jpb/32/5614_2.png) [@JPB](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/JPB)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 4:37am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/24 "2022-08-18T04:37:26Z")

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Thank you!!

To confirm, do you believe the CBD/THC will worsen the throat discomfort for individuals with ES?

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**Author:** ![Isaiah\_40\_31](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/isaiah_40_31/32/3054_2.png) [@Isaiah\_40\_31](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Isaiah_40_31)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 5:48am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/25 "2022-08-18T05:48:01Z")

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That depends on the individual. Some people have gotten decent relief from symptoms where others have found no help or, as in your case, symptoms were exacerbated.

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**Author:** ![Mod\_support](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/mod_support/32/1118_2.png) [@Mod\_support](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Mod_support)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/26 "2022-08-18T13:42:22Z")

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Hey JPD,  
I must agree with Isaiah “That depends on the individual”.  
I have been prescribed medical cannabis for a few years now and it seems for some people it’s a wonder drug and yet for others the benefits have not been there or have been outweighed by the side effects. It also seems that the form, be that bud or oil or edibles, can vary the effectiveness for each individual. For example it’s been reported that an oral oil works well for some, but takes time from administration to be processed via the liver before it takes effect. Some medicos are very against smoking, but smoking has an immediate effect. For some people that immediate effect can be a little overwhelming. It really can be a case of weighing the pro’s vs con’s for each person.

I’m a neurosurgical patient. When I started this neuro journey cannabis was still considered to have no medical benefit. Even in mentioning cannabis to a dr, you never really knew what reaction you may have gotten, usually everything from ‘Drug Seeker’ to ‘Nutcase’, but very little in the way of support for canna. Some dr’s are still of that ‘No medical benefit’ mindset and even today for every medico who approves the use of cannabis, in the neurological world, from my experience, there’s another 4 who disapprove. I truly believe it’s a case of trial and error for each individual, just the same as with any other medication.

Hope it helps  
Merl from the Modsupport Team

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**Author:** ![TheDude](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/thedude/32/3071_2.png) [@TheDude](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/TheDude)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 2:38pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/27 "2022-08-18T14:38:13Z")

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In my case I’m taking MMJ against muscle tension, nerve pain and brainfog/ elevated intracranial venous pressures (at least until last surgery).  
From my experience I would say that MJ which is Sativa and contains the terpenes Limonene and Terpinolene the most, often times made things worse or did not help.  
Indicas or even Hybrids (Indica & Sativa) containing the terpenes Pinene, Myrcene, Caryophyllene are helpful for me. In edibles there is often no hint to the used strains or terpenes exept the differentiation between Sativa or Indica.

For beginners the dose where side effects like euphoria or even more unplesant like anxiousness etc. occurs lies probably way under the therapeutic dose first. So you have to get used to the cannabis slowly to be able to handle a symptom releaving dose. Easiest for not overdosing is consuming inhaled MJ slowly enough.

Thats only for my point of view. I agree that this is probably not valid in every case, as we are all a bit different. It is try and error like with the other medications I’ve tried.

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**Author:** ![JPB](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/jpb/32/5614_2.png) [@JPB](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/JPB)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/28 "2022-08-18T15:05:12Z")

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Thank you!

It is interesting to hear the various opinions on this. I have seen the medical community shift toward accepting prescribed THC over pain meds in light of the affect pain meds have on individuals.

Personally, I don’t use either but I have researched various forms of relief and often wonder whether it will make ES worse or provide some momentary relief.

Thank you all for your feedback!!!

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**Author:** ![TheDude](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/thedude/32/3071_2.png) [@TheDude](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/TheDude)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 1:35pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/29 "2022-09-16T13:35:58Z")

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That’s an interesting article and surprisingly different to the usual stereotype. 😁

> **[Anhedonia, apathy, pleasure, and effort-based decision-making in adult and...](https://academic.oup.com/ijnp/advance-article/doi/10.1093/ijnp/pyac056/6674260?login=false)**
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> AbstractBackground. Cannabis use may be linked with anhedonia and apathy. However, previous studies have shown mixed results and few have examined the associati

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**Author:** ![Isaiah\_40\_31](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/isaiah_40_31/32/3054_2.png) [@Isaiah\_40\_31](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Isaiah_40_31)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 3:43am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/30 "2022-09-18T03:43:00Z")

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Interesting study, @TheDude. I wonder what led to their premise & ultimately the study.

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**Author:** ![stuuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@stuuke](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/stuuke)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:56am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/31 "2022-09-20T03:56:13Z")

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Has anyone tried CBG oil?

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**Author:** ![Isaiah\_40\_31](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/isaiah_40_31/32/3054_2.png) [@Isaiah\_40\_31](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Isaiah_40_31)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 6:51am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/32 "2022-09-20T06:51:33Z")

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If you’re talking about using it on your incision, a number of our members have used it but as an addition to a cream (it comes already mixed in). If you’re asking about it for medicinal/pain relief purposes, we also have a contingent on here who have used it for that - some w/ good results & some w/ mediocre ones.

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**Author:** ![TheDude](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/thedude/32/3071_2.png) [@TheDude](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/TheDude)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/33 "2022-11-27T18:31:00Z")

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> [@NUTT et al. (2022) - A Multicriteria Decision Analysis Comparing Pharmacotherapy for Chronic Neuropathic Pain, Including Cannabinoids and Cannabis-Based Medical Products](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/nutt-et-al-2022-a-multicriteria-decision-analysis-comparing-pharmacotherapy-for-chronic-neuropathic-pain-including-cannabinoids-and-cannabis-based-medical-products/12510/1):
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> [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33998895/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33998895/)Abstract Background: Pharmacological management of chronic neuropathic pain (CNP) still represents a major clinical challenge. Collective harnessing of both the scientific evidence base and clinical experience (of clinicians and patients) can play a key role in informing treatment pathways and contribute to the debate on specific treatments (e.g., cannabinoids). A group of expert clinicians (pain specialists and psychiatrists), scientists, and patient r…

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**Author:** ![TheDude](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/thedude/32/3071_2.png) [@TheDude](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/TheDude)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 10:27am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/34 "2023-06-05T10:27:53Z")

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Here is another interesting page regarding to Cannabis on headaches and intracranial pressure/ IIH though the author doesn’t recommend the use of cannabinoids until there is better evidence.

> **[Cannabis and Cannabinoid Therapies for Headache - Practical Neurology](https://practicalneurology.com/articles/2019-may/cannabis-and-cannabinoid-therapies-for-headache)**
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> Shown effective for treatment of pain, Cannabis may have benefits for patients with headache, but more research is still needed.

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**Author:** ![TheDude](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/thedude/32/3071_2.png) [@TheDude](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/TheDude)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/35 "2023-06-05T17:46:56Z")

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And there is a nice and very infromative illustration about THC metabolism in human (eating vs. smoking) I’d like to share here.

Full text you can find on [Human Metabolism of THC – Sapiensoup Blog](https://sapiensoup.com/human-metabolism-thc)

 ![Infographic-Human-Metabolism-THC-1300-768x2452(1)_remastered| 300x825, 100%](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/ben_eagle/original/2X/4/42141da25e31fa24f1b5b5c31cbe002936469abf.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![TheDude](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/thedude/32/3071_2.png) [@TheDude](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/TheDude)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/36 "2023-06-05T19:45:28Z")

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Here is another good information e.g. instruction especially about dosage from a medical marijuana company. In the pain clinic I was few month ago they were also using this titration scheme when setting me on cannabis oil in addition to flowers. I is a good addition for the more constant part of my pain and intracranial pressure. Later I changed the manufacturer from Tilray to Aurora, whose flowers I’m already using (Indica: LA Confidential).

**[https://dash.medihuanna.com/api/sponsor/resources/download/3](https://dash.medihuanna.com/api/sponsor/resources/download/3)** (PDF Download)

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**Author:** ![TheDude](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/thedude/32/3071_2.png) [@TheDude](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/TheDude)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/37 "2023-06-05T20:28:03Z")

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Here is a link to my CBD update “more works more”:

> [@CBD and pain relief?](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/cbd-and-pain-relief/7833/16):
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> Hi friends, About half year ago I started with a litte bit diffrent approach on CBD. I had already some promising results when taking 120mg CBD or somtimes even more as capsules. During my education as medical marijuana consultant (without financial interests at the moment) with Dr. Grotenhermen, he recommended using crystalline CBD powder or CBD isolate as cheapest way getting it. Here in Europe it is available from about 150€ per 100 grams. I did some googling and found it also in some states…

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**Author:** ![Mod\_support](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/mod_support/32/1118_2.png) [@Mod\_support](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Mod_support)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 1:46pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/medical-marijuana-general-information/7907/38 "2023-06-06T13:46:57Z")

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Very interesting.  
Thanks Dude

Merl from the Modsupport Team

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