# Some images from my CT Venogram

**URL:** <https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/some-images-from-my-ct-venogram/17164>\
**Category:** Symptoms and Treatments\
**Tags:** internal-jugular-vei\
**Created:** [September 29, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/some-images-from-my-ct-venogram/17164 "2024-09-29T13:54:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Isaiah\_40\_31](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/isaiah_40_31/32/3054_2.png) [@Isaiah\_40\_31](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Isaiah_40_31)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 7:24am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/some-images-from-my-ct-venogram/17164/21 "2024-10-03T07:24:58Z")

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I’m sorry to hear your symptoms have come back @July123! It would be good for you to get a new CT scan with contrast to see what it shows. Prof. Sultan in Galway is very experienced with ES surgery. It would be worthwhile getting an appt with him.

Professor Sherif Sultan, Galway Clinic has performed ES surgery & published a research paper, [https://sherifsultan.ie](https://sherifsultan.ie)

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**Author:** ![July123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/258eb7/32.png) [@July123](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/July123)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 12:33pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/some-images-from-my-ct-venogram/17164/22 "2024-10-03T12:33:03Z")

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Thanks but he’s too far from me.

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**Author:** ![Isaiah\_40\_31](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/isaiah_40_31/32/3054_2.png) [@Isaiah\_40\_31](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Isaiah_40_31)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/some-images-from-my-ct-venogram/17164/23 "2024-10-03T21:56:45Z")

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Then I hop Prof Stassen can help you, @July123.

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**Author:** ![Khalil5oo](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/khalil5oo/32/9901_2.png) [@Khalil5oo](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Khalil5oo)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 8:21am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/some-images-from-my-ct-venogram/17164/24 "2024-10-04T08:21:58Z")

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Hey miki, what are your symptoms? I been really going through it all year and I got diagnosed with eagle syndrome recently. Been feeling brain fog lightheaded and a whole bunch of symptoms.

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**Author:** ![MikiDora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@MikiDora](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/MikiDora)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/some-images-from-my-ct-venogram/17164/25 "2024-10-10T20:26:24Z")

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I am just starting the process of establishing a relationship with the Camino ENT to address the VES. I now have the scans to support the prognosis. One main symptom is an astoundingly loud ringing in the right side of my brain, not to be confused with tinnitus. I can’t prove that it is a result of the VES, so I just have to proceed and hope for the best, but prepare that not all my symptoms will go away . I chose Camino ENT based on the research and reading from this forum. I will keep you posted. Caring Medical also gave me a series of exercises to correct cervical instability and I am doing them. I have a short list of symptoms that I have that may be related to or caused by the VES. The one thing for sure as shown on my CT scan with contrast is the jugular vein on the right side is being pinched off. Thanks for reaching out, I think this form is great.

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**Author:** ![Isaiah\_40\_31](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/isaiah_40_31/32/3054_2.png) [@Isaiah\_40\_31](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Isaiah_40_31)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/some-images-from-my-ct-venogram/17164/26 "2024-10-11T20:55:42Z")

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@MikiDora - Camino ENT does NOT deal with vascular ES/IJV compression. I highly suggest you establish a relationship with Dr. Damrose at Stanford who has recently started doing IJV decompression surgeries & was trained by Dr. Hepworth who is one of the most skilled doctors in the US for doing IJV decompression surgeries w/ styloidectomy.  
Dr. Damrose was Dr. Samji’s mentor when Dr. Samji did his medical residency at Stanford.

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**Author:** ![MikiDora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@MikiDora](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/MikiDora)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/some-images-from-my-ct-venogram/17164/27 "2024-10-12T02:10:30Z")

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Thank you so much for your insight. I’m just starting on this journey since I only found out four weeks ago that the styloid is pinching off the jugular vein, and who knows what other things it’s doing. I value your experience since you’ve been living with it a lot longer than I have. Caring Medical was a great starting point because they actually could qualify what things are wrong with me. It’s very liberating to finally know. I’ve had good luck with the physical therapy. But I know I have to address the two issues of the jugular vein and the styloid. Your symptoms sounds similar to mine. My most profound symptom is a loud ringing in my head only on the right side. I’m getting ready to accept the fact that even if I get this stuff fixed that sound may still be there. thanks again for your insight. Philter

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**Author:** ![MikiDora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@MikiDora](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/MikiDora)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/some-images-from-my-ct-venogram/17164/28 "2024-10-12T02:15:02Z")

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Hey everyone, I am new to the group. Is there a TLA dictionary? That’s three letter acronyms. There’s so many floating around that. I don’t know what they mean. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Isaiah\_40\_31](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/isaiah_40_31/32/3054_2.png) [@Isaiah\_40\_31](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Isaiah_40_31)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:16am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/some-images-from-my-ct-venogram/17164/29 "2024-10-12T03:16:09Z")

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@MikiDora - Please ask if you have questions about unknown acronyms used in a post. The ones I think you’ll see most often are below, & other members can add what I miss:

ES - Eagle Syndrome  
VES - Vascular Eagle Syndrome  
VOO - Vascular Outflow Obstruction (i.e. IJV compression)  
IJV - Internal Jugular Vein  
ICA - Internal Carotid Artery  
TOS - Thoracic Outlet Syndrome  
FBS - First Bite Syndrome  
EDS - Ehlers Danlos Syndrome  
hEDS - Hypermobile EDS  
vEDS - Vascular EDS  
MCAS - Mast Cell Activation Syndrome  
CCI - Craniocervical Instability  
AAI - Atlantoaxial Instability

That’s a start. It does seem sometimes that we’ve developed our own language here. 😂

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**Author:** ![Jules](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/jules/32/404_2.png) [@Jules](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Jules)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/some-images-from-my-ct-venogram/17164/30 "2024-10-12T16:55:12Z")

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I do have to look some up myself 😂  
Hope that @Isaiah_40_31 has covered them all, feel free to ask if there’s any more!

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**Author:** ![JugularEagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@JugularEagle](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/JugularEagle)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 9:38pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/some-images-from-my-ct-venogram/17164/31 "2024-10-12T21:38:21Z")

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> [@MikiDora](#):
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> One main symptom is an astoundingly loud ringing in the right side of my brain, not to be confused with tinnitus.

I have low grade tinnitus. Sometimes I get a very loud ringing. I notice it more when laying down but I have had it when upright. The last time I had it I moved my head to see if it stopped. It did. It could be tinnitus or something else. Next time try methodically moving your head very slowly and pausing and see if you can get it to go away. It may not work every time. I have only tried it once. Usually I just try not to pay attention to it and eventually it would go away.

My right styloid is the biggest problem. The loud ringing was on the left side but I don’t remember which side I was laying on when it happened. I was shocked I could get it to stop so quickly.

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**Author:** ![Isaiah\_40\_31](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/isaiah_40_31/32/3054_2.png) [@Isaiah\_40\_31](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Isaiah_40_31)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 11:41pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/some-images-from-my-ct-venogram/17164/32 "2024-10-12T23:41:42Z")

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> [@MikiDora](#):
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> My most profound symptom is a loud ringing in my head only on the right side

@MikiDora - I’m sorry I didn’t comment on this yesterday. Tinnitus can seem like it’s in your head especially when it’s very loud. When mine first started, the tinnitus was so loud & invasive it made me feel like my brain was scrambled. I couldn’t think & felt panicky. It was pretty awful. Getting my left styloid shortened reduced the volume of the tinnitus but the hearing loss continued to progress & vertigo became more a part of my life. That subsided for two years but has recently returned. I’m sure hoping that my IJV decompression surgery restores at least some hearing & stops the vertigo for good!

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