# Upcomimg Dr appt **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [January 6, 2023, 9:04am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/upcomimg-dr-appt/12699 "2023-01-06T09:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![PatientD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ba0ec/32.png) [@PatientD](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/PatientD)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 9:32am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/upcomimg-dr-appt/12699/21 "2023-01-11T09:32:03Z")
Hi so I looked at natrol online and the paper you sent on that topic. I see they have different strengths? Which dosage level have you found most helpful? I do have NuCalm which has a Deep Sleep track that I try to use as I fall asleep as it puts body in Deep Sleep at outset. It lasts 50 mins. It does have an 8 hour program but have not used that while very unwell with ops as I know sleeping with too much trapped fluid causes Neuro damage due to desats level & pressure of fluid on brain. I do use rescue tracks to put me in theta brain waves where we recover. Also use recharge tracks to top up my sleep (20 mins track is like 2 hours sleep). After Vodder lymph work yesterday pm (plus pmb & Bodyflow work at home) I managed 89% sleep efficiency & got 7hrs sleep, 3 hours being Deep Sleep. But right now good nights like this are vanishingly rare for me. Let me know about dosage when you can? Thanks for help. D ---
**Author:** ![Isaiah\_40\_31](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/isaiah_40_31/32/3054_2.png) [@Isaiah\_40\_31](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Isaiah_40_31)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 2:51am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/upcomimg-dr-appt/12699/22 "2023-01-12T02:51:30Z")
I’ve had really good results from liposomal liquid melatonin. It’s a bit pricey but has been tremendously helpful for me especially when combined w/ a cortisol reducer as my cortisol level seems to peak at night while I’m sleeping but is lower during the day which is the opposite of what it’s supposed to be. I have done a couple of 24 hr saliva tests to determine this pattern. Here’s the Amazon link to the melatonin but you can research it further online, I’m sure. > **[Amazon.com: Quicksilver Scientific Liposomal Melatonin - Melatonin Emulsified...](https://www.amazon.com/Quicksilver-Scientific-Liposomal-Melatonin-Phospholipid/dp/B07FWFJXJ4)** > > Amazon.com: Quicksilver Scientific Liposomal Melatonin - Melatonin Emulsified Liquid - Sleep, Jet Lag + Immune Support - Superior Absorption + Customizable Dosing to Minimize Morning Drowsiness (1oz / 30ml) : Health & Household ---
**Author:** ![jimjammer123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/46a35a/32.png) [@jimjammer123](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/jimjammer123)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 6:35pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/upcomimg-dr-appt/12699/23 "2023-01-12T18:35:15Z")
I personally always buy 5mg ones, if my insomnia is particularly bad then I would need up to 3 or even 4…Which is quite excessive but is what it is. It seems that high dose melatonin eg 20mg to 100mg has been done in multiple studies, so it seems to me it has a good safety profile. If you want more bang for your buck but not sure what dose you’d require, I would buy the 5mg 150 pill one and buy a £5 quid tablet splitter off amazon so you could split it into 2.5mg instead of buying the 3mg 90 pills one. Bit of a faff I suppose, but I can’t imagine it would take longer than 5 minutes to split say 30 if required. [high dose melatonin - Google Scholar](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=high+dose+melatonin&btnG=) So this is the website I buy it from, it comes from america but I’ve not had to pay any custom fees or anything like that. I think it takes about 10 days to arrive. [NATROL -�Melatonin Fast Dissolve Strawberry 5 mg - 150 Tablets – Vitamin Grocer UK](https://uk.vitamingrocer.com/products/melatonin-fast-dissolve-strawberry-5-mg-166413) Here’s a list of the different ones you can get - [Search: 12 results found for “natrol fast dissolve” – Vitamin Grocer UK](https://uk.vitamingrocer.com/search?q=natrol+fast+dissolve) ---
**Author:** ![jimjammer123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/46a35a/32.png) [@jimjammer123](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/jimjammer123)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 6:47pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/upcomimg-dr-appt/12699/24 "2023-01-12T18:47:59Z")
Fyi I think this medication named belwo might be the first medication along with potentially something called Ramelteon that could actually improve general sleep performance long term rather than just be a band aid solution like melatonin, etc. Unforunately I think the only way to access these meds is via a Japanese website where it’s something like £200 for a months worth… Edit: I take that back, it looks like roughly 6 months or so since I came across these meds/studies India have started manufacturing it and selling it at a MUCH cheaper cost, unfortunately its sold out on this pharmacy, but I’m sure it must be available somewhere else for a similar-ish price now - [Ramitax (Ramelteon) - 8mg (10 Tablets) - United Pharmacies (UK) (unitedpharmacies-uk.md)](https://www.unitedpharmacies-uk.md/Ramitax-Ramelteon-8mg-10-Tablets-p-2618.html) [Long-term effectiveness and safety of lemborexant in adults with insomnia disorder: results from a phase 3 randomized clinical trial - ScienceDirect](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1389945721000654) “This study highlights evidence demonstrating that lemborexant appears to provide long-term benefits for adults with insomnia. LEM5 and LEM10 provided significant benefit on sleep onset and sleep maintenance compared with placebo, and importantly, the benefits of lemborexant persisted through twelve months. In addition, the cumulative response curves for sleep onset and sleep maintenance were more favorable with LEM5 and LEM10 than with placebo treatment through six months, and similar cumulative response curves were observed with lemborexant through twelve months. Together, these results indicate that lemborexant provided important levels of long-term and sustained efficacy on sleep.” [Effect of Lemborexant on Patient-Reported Distress About Sleeping and Interference with Daily Functioning in Subjects With Insomnia (1582) | Neurology](https://n.neurology.org/content/96/15_Supplement/1582.abstract) ---
**Author:** ![jimjammer123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/46a35a/32.png) [@jimjammer123](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/jimjammer123)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 6:52pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/upcomimg-dr-appt/12699/25 "2023-01-12T18:52:43Z")
Dear lord…look how much they’re charging in the US in comparison to that pharmacy I just found. Daylight robbery… [Amazon Pharmacy: Rozerem (Brand for Ramelteon, Oral Tablet)](https://pharmacy.amazon.com/dp/B084C2ZJQ7?) ---
**Author:** ![Isaiah\_40\_31](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/isaiah_40_31/32/3054_2.png) [@Isaiah\_40\_31](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Isaiah_40_31)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 5:03am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/upcomimg-dr-appt/12699/26 "2023-01-13T05:03:24Z")
I couldn’t see a price on the Amazon link. It only noted that in the US Rozerem is an Rx medication. Maybe you can see a price because your UK? ---
**Author:** ![jimjammer123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/46a35a/32.png) [@jimjammer123](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/jimjammer123)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/upcomimg-dr-appt/12699/27 "2023-01-14T19:19:59Z")
![Web capture_14-1-2023_19195_pharmacy.amazon.com](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/ben_eagle/original/2X/f/fdc8915b1d0bbcb877d14a340b43ea61b58e521c.jpeg) This is what I see for some reason ---
**Author:** ![Isaiah\_40\_31](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitheagle.org/isaiah_40_31/32/3054_2.png) [@Isaiah\_40\_31](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/u/Isaiah_40_31)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/upcomimg-dr-appt/12699/28 "2023-01-15T02:44:29Z")
That’s the same thing I saw. I figured it was just because I’m in the US. 😅 [Previous page](https://forum.livingwitheagle.org/t/upcomimg-dr-appt/12699.md?page=1)