A lucky physician’s perspective

Hi there, fellow Eagle syndrome colleagues!

Many thanks to those who maintain this important site and those who contribute with their personal stories and experience.

My personal journey is as follows: in December of 2023, I started having pulsatile tinnitus one day while at work. I am a 63 year-old pediatric ICU doctor, so thought it was due to the many alarms that had gone off that day.

The pulsatile tinnitus persisted, and was constant, so I saw a neuro-otologist ( an ear, nose and throat specialist who focuses on hearing) a few days later. He mentioned that a cerebral angiogram might be needed if the symptoms persisted. In the meantime, he ordered a contrast CT of the temporal bone, which showed that I had asymmetric prominence of the transverse and sigmoid sinus, and jugular bulb, read as within normal limits.

By March of 2024, the tinnitus was much worse , more prominent on the right than the left ear, and I started having daily headaches, particularly in the afternoons, and with activity. That May, I had the first of two ER visits due to the severity of the headache, and a cerebral angiogram after seeing a vascular neurologist.

The angiogram was primarily done to rule out a dural arteriovenous fistula, which is an abnormal direct connection between an artery and a vein, bypassing the normal capillary network, and which can cause hemorrhage in the brain.

My angiogram showed only prominent bilateral posterior condylar veins. Condylar veins are typically small veins that are remnants and vary from person to person, as normal variants thought to help cool and decompress any obstruction in the jugular vein.

The interventional neuro-radiologist (a radiologist who focuses on the vessels supplying the brain and spinal cord, and can fix problems associated with these vessels) thought my condylar veins to be normal variants and offered to try to close them if the tinnitus became so debilitating as to cause severe, life-threatening emotional distress.

I wondered if there could be downstream obstruction to explain the prominent veins, but the physicians scoffed at the idea.

Medical treatment for migraine and other headache syndromes was recommended, and I started taking acetazolamide to see if it would help.

At that point, I started searching the internet for specialists around the country, and ended up making an appointment to see Dr. Athos Patsalides, an interventional neuroradiologist affilliated with the Northwell healthcare system in New York, who showed me what 3 clinicians and 4 radiologists had missed: I had elongated styloids compressing my jugular veins at the level of the first vertebral body, C1.

Dr. Patsalides recommended consultation with Dr. Sheng-fu Larry Lo, an experienced neurosurgeon, and I saw Dr. Lo a few days later. Dr. Patsalides performed a venogram in early 2024, which demonstrated the narrowing, particularly with neck flexion, and somewhat increased intracranial intravenous pressure. The venogram showed only modest gradients ( 2 mmHg) but included a 3-D reconstruction which demonstrated very extensive collaterals.

My mom is 90 and my schedule is tight, so I tried to get a styloidectomy where I live, which entailed consultation with three neurosurgeons who were skeptical of the diagnosis made by Dr. Patsalides, but offered, after a lumbar puncture, and a second angiogram, to tackle the styloid.

In the end, I decided to go to New York for surgery with Drs. Larry Lo and Peter Costantino. Ms. Vanessa Fuentes, from Dr. Lo’s office, helped coordinate all my preop appointments, making everything much easier for me.

I saw Dr. Costantino in his office in White Plains, NY. He discussed the surgical plan in detail from his perspective as a highly experienced Head and Neck surgeon. I was very impressed by his kind but decisive approach to patient care.

I had my surgery with Drs. Lo and Costantino on May 23, 2025 at North Shore University Hospital, in Manhasset, NY.

The surgery, which included complete styloidectomy at the skull base, after taking down the digastric muscle and other soft tissues, and creating a clear view of the C1 tubercle , the major contributor to the stenosis in my case, so that Dr. Lo could trim it down, went very well.

I was surprised to wake up feeling better, with reduction in the headache and tinnitus, a symptom which both Drs. Lo and Costantino had warned me would be the least likely to improve.

An overnight stay with a drain was very comfortable. The postop pain plan included scheduled IV acetaminophen, and opioids available as needed, but the pain was minimal compared to other surgeries I’ve had, and also noted by other contributors to this forum.

The drain removal was also painless. My neurosurgeon, Dr. Lo stopped by to check on me and discharged me in time for lunch with my family.

I saw Dr. Costantino in his office on day 5 postop. I stayed locally for about 10 days, enjoying the Long Island area before flying home, where I am continuing my recovery before going back to work in a couple of weeks - feeling great, now off acetaminophen for the first time in 15 months!

The greatest challenge right now has been to be mindful of postop restrictions in activity… tough when you are feeling better!

Once again, a huge thank you to those who maintain this site and those who contribute to it.

Advocacy is hugely important, since few physicians - even well-known neurologists, neuroradiologists, and neurosurgeons may not not be aware or have experience managing disorders of cerebral venous outflow, including Eagle syndrome causing jugular venous stenosis.

I am very fortunate to have the medical background needed to lead me to the most experienced team in the country, if not the world, but I feel for those less empowered to advocate for themselves with the complex and very severe symptoms that can be experienced for a long time before relief is achieved by surgical intervention.

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@ROkhuysen - Thank you for your very positive review of Drs. Lo & Costantino. We’ve had quite a number of members for whom Dr. Costantino & Drs. Lo or Tobias have done ES surgery w/ IJV decompression with successful results. We are thankful to have them among the doctors’ names to whom we can refer our members who have vascular outflow obstruction.

I also appreciate that you explained what you were talking about as you wrote since many of our members are not part of the medical community so the terminology that is sometimes used on this forum can be confusing, especially to new members.

I’m glad you were able to find the doctors you deemed best for diagnosis & surgery and that your journey has a happy & healthy ending. We advise starting back to work part time especially w/ a job such as yours where you’ll be looking down frequently to do exams & administer care to critically ill children. You may find that initially causes symptoms flares.

Healing from ES surgery can be a 3 steps forward 2 steps back proposition as nerves & vascular tissues heal & can take up to a year for full recovery. Bearing that in mind, we highly recommend (as you would as a doctor) that you listen to your body & try to rest when it asks, don’t jump back into work & life w/ both feet but ease in with baby steps as this will give your body the best chance at a quicker recovery.

Please keep us posted as to how you’re doing when you’re further down the recovery road. Again, thank you for sharing your ES journey with us.

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Good afternoon, and thank you so much for your note, and especially for the advice! It is so tempting to jump back into the action with both feet, but very important to allow time for recovery and the best possible ultimate results.

Best wishes, and thank you so much for this wonderful networking opportunity, and for maintaining this site - such an important resource!

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I’m so glad that you were able to get a diagnosis and now surgery too- interesting that even you were dismissed initially when you asked about compression! Thank you for sharing your story, and I hope that you heal well from the surgery- did you have just one side removed? (Not wanting to be a Debbie downer, but we do see quite often that once the first side is sorted, it can sometimes make the other side flare up; not sure if that’s because there’s an alteration in the whole stylo-hyoid chain complex, everything shifting about a little in the neck or the worst side masking the other side?) So just wanted to prepare you for that!
So pleased for you & thank you again!

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Hi there, Jules ! I had surgery on the right side, because it was the dominant system and with worst compression - I’m hoping it is sufficient since the vein was liberated circumferentially, including the C1 trimming and release of all soft tissues for a “360 degree” decompression.

I’m doing a little work from home ( limited by three cats ) and taking it easy, to promote healing.

And yes - I had to put up with a lot of dismissive doctors along the way - it almost seemed like the vascular neurologist and a local prominent vascular neurosurgeon refused to be educated on this clinical problem - the vascular neurosurgeon refused to look at my CT scan - that was the final straw - and I headed to New York for what I feel was a very successful surgery performed by an experienced team ( Drs. Lo and Costantino) working with a monitoring specialist to minimize any possible nerve injury.

Best wishes!

Regina

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I had a similar situation regarding my IJV compression which began between my two styloidectomies - one for right then left. I had a cycling accident where I landed on the right side of my face which caused my C1 to shift left squashing my IJV against my L styloid. My surgeon not only didn’t recognize the symptoms, he didn’t cut my styloid short enough to clear C1 so the IJV remained impacted. It took me 7 years to realize I’d had symptoms of IJV compression prior to my second styloidectomy (some of which resolved w/ the surgery) & begin the quest to get it diagnosed & taken care of.

The frustrating thing for me is that I lost the hearing in my left ear as a result of the accident/vascular compression, & neither of the doctors I worked w/ had any interest in considering the role my IJV compression played in that. Both are excellent doctors but short-sighted I’d say.

Nothing like a little furry friend therapy to help with recovery! I’m glad you’re taking it easy & giving your self time to heal prior to going back to work full time.

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Hi was PT your only symptom at first?

Hi there, yes… for about three months - then headaches became the most troublesome symptom, since they were occurring daily … no “days off” in 15 months!

Best wishes,

Regina

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Hi there - and thank you for your note !

And so sorry that you lost your hearing as a result of compression after the accident. I’m wondering whether a cochlear implant might help you - but don’t know about what degree of hearing disability you have to have for this procedure.

I’m wondering if we should consider writing a paper from the patient perspective - it seems to me that there is a significant lack of awareness about Eagle syndrome in the medical community, and it gets either missed or dismissed.

There are medical several journals where it could be published, including otolaryngology and neurosurgery and, obviously, radiology journals.

Best wishes,

Regina

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I’d be willing to collaborate on something like that especially since you have inroads into the medical community & potentially would have an easier time getting something you wrote/cowrote published than I would as a “lay person”.

A cochlear implant has been suggested to me, but I’m borderline as to how advanced my hearing loss is relative to whether or not Medicare would pay for it. I’ve also got some concerns about getting a cochlear implant since I’ve had two TBIs from cycling accidents (age 13 & age 58) & am not sure I want an electrode implanted in my brain. I’m due for another hearing test in Oct. & will see if anything has changed. I can hear sound, but my word comprehension is nearly 0 unless the volume is extremely loud. A hearing aid is out because I have hyperacusis in my “deaf” ear. I’d first like to pursue surgery to relieve my dehiscence issue (it’s not SCDS), & if that is accomplished, then consider my next steps.

Thank you, Regina, for your concern & for your interest in getting the news about ES “out there” more visibly for the medical community at large.

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Hi there… got my thinking cap on, for sure, as I think about what we should write about and target audience.

One recommendation - any TBI (and any cranial surgery procedure ) increase your lifetime risk or pneumococcal meningitis … so recommend making sure that is one of the immunizations you keep up to date.

Best wishes,

Regina

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@ROkhuysen Thanks for that info. Any thoughts as to why there is an increased risk?

Hi there - any skull fracture or even surgery (but I do not styloidectomy does) that crosses paranasal sinuses, which were designed to make the skull lighter, and may have some other functions, may harbor pneumococcus ( also known as Streptococcus Pneumoniae ) increases the chance of invasive disease, manifesting as meningitis.

Luckily, there are very effective vaccines to protect against this bug in patients of all ages.

So although a styloidectomy doesn’t involve any work on cranial paranasal sinuses ( not to be confused with the venous sinuses which house the venous structures that eventually form the jugular vein) it is still a very good idea to have all age-appropriate vaccines “on board” to minimize preventable illnesses like pneumonia, shingles, influenza, etc.

Hope I answered your question!

Writing a paper would be a very good idea! :hugs:

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Or papers!!!

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That’s great information. Thank you so much!

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