Finally have an answer but it has no solution

I know there has been some discussion about lingering high pitched pulsatile tinnitus and dizziness after surgery. Those are my 2 ‘left over’ symptoms. On the last webinar the consensus was that the surgery often eliminates low pitch pulsatile tinnitus as it tends to be a venous hum that goes away after decompression but that high pitch isn’t generally helped by surgery. They also said that lingering dizziness is common but tends to improve over time. Left with the 2 symptoms I went back into the medical world in search of a cause and solution. The IR angiogram I had prior to surgery proved that there was nothing dangerous (like a fistula or tumor) causing the tinnitus but could not point to a cause. I finally ended up at Dr. Sharon’s office. He is a UCSF neuro otologist. It took 3 months to get an initial appointment and an additional 3 months to get the follow-up appointment to go over my testing results.

So it turns out I have a carotid cochlear dehiscence. The carotid artery is supposed to be encased in bone right where it passes by the inner ear and for me the bone is absent. So the high pitch pulsatile tinnitus I have on my right side is actually the sound of blood moving through my internal carotid. Dr. Sharon believes that my dizziness is a result of my inner ear hearing the sound, impacting the vestibular system and my brain not being able to make sense of the signal. So basically the noise of it is causing the dizziness, called Tullio phenomenon. It is interesting that many of us in the Eagle’s community have some sort of bony erosion in the inner ear.

Unlike SCDS, it can’t be treated surgically because it is too dangerous as the possibility of having a stroke during surgery is too high. There is some relief in understanding what is happening. Dr. Sharon believes I can help teach my brain to be less grumpy about it via a new type of vestibular rehab they are doing at UCSF using virtual reality. I have my first session last month and I’m excited to give it a try.

Anyway, in case there is anyone out there with similar lingering symptoms, I thought I would post a possible answer.

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Thank you for sharing this; I’m sorry that these symptoms haven’t gone for you after surgery, but sort of good that you have an answer… sometimes knowing what is the cause can help a little towards the frustration, even if not much can be done! I believe it was Mr Axon who did my surgery in the UK feels that IJV compression & the high intracranial pressure it creates can wear away bones in the inner ear contributing to dehiscence. Does your doctor think that the ES has contributed or could it have been a congenital thing?

I’m sorry that surgery is not an option, but hope the rehab will help, will you let us know how you get on? :folded_hands: :hugs:

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@Chrickychricky - Thank you for this update. It’s actually very helpful even for me. As you know I have chronic loud tinnitus in my left ear (lower pitched) due to too much bone being removed in an inner ear surgery in 2019. I also have tinnitus in my right ear (higher pitched) & have had bilateral tinnitus since I was a child. I watched a short YouTube video where Dr. Amans was discussing the different causes of low & high pitched tinnitus. He said lower pitched tinnitus is the sound of blood flow through a vein & higher pitched is blood flow through an artery so I’ve been assuming that the left ear tinnitus is venous & my right ear’s is arterial. I don’t have chronic dizziness, but I do have days where I feel a bit off balance so maybe I have something similar to your diagnosis. I’m sorry there’s nothing to be done to help you, but I’m glad you may be able to overcome the dizziness via vestibular rehab.

I second @Jules request. Please update us periodically to let us know if the rehab is helping.

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@Jules @Isaiah_40_31 Thanks for the support!

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