IJV compression and shortness of breath

Hi everyone. I am new in the forum. I apologize for cross-posting. I’m looking for advice on specialists and diagnostic pathways, as I am quite stuck right now.

I am a 45-year-old man based in Spain. I have hEDS and, after an apparently non-serious car accident in February 2024, I was found to have borderline craniocervical instability (CCI) and atlantoaxial instablility (AAI) (according to the usual measures). A vascular MRI later showed IJV at the C1 level. I was diagnosed by Dr Gilete in Barcelona.

Apart from moderate neck discomfort, my main disabling symptom is a sensation of not getting enough air when speaking (air hunger/shortness of breath), especially when I need to project my voice (for example, when teaching). Over time, I have needed water, lozenges/sweets and a microphone just to cope, and it is really exhausting and difficult. I am on the verge of losing my job and my career. My oxygen saturation is normal, and the feeling does not get worse with physical activity.

I have been doing very specialised PT for 1.5 years, my neck is stronger and the level of neck discomfort is perfectly manageable. But the air hunger is still there.

In 2026 this has worsened: my throat gets dry very quickly, this can lead to a dry cough, and the sensation of not getting enough air is now worse, sometimes even a bit at rest. I do not have sleep apnoea, as far as I know.

I’ve already seen:

  • a local pulmonologist (spirometry and oxygen saturation were not revealing)
  • a local general ENT (no clear findings)
  • a local neurologist (who simply said it was psychological and due to depression)
  • Dr Gilete (a specialised neurosurgeon)

I am totally lost because, unsurprisingly, nobody is really guiding me about what to check or monitor in order to identify the clear source of the shortness of breath and, eventually, a solution.

My guess is that this appeared after the accident and is very likely to be related to CCI/AAI, but I am not sure how. As I have worsened and the situation has become more and more unbearable, I am now trying to pursue several paths.

First, going back to Dr Gilete. In principle, the tests (CBCT) ruled out static brainstem compression. Also, I did a cervical collar trial for 4–5 days and did not notice any improvement. It is also worth noting that this (air hunger) is my only neurological symptom. I would have expected that, if there were some brainstem compression, there would be many more neurological symptoms. This path would probably imply a more invasive trial (with a cervical collar with thoracic support, or even a halo) and angiography (to better explore the jugular vein compression). Also, in principle, it could typically result in (at least) a C0-C2 fusion, with all the associated uncertainties and problems (adjacent segment disease, a huge amount of money, osteopenia, etc.). At present, I also do not have any good indication that fusion would solve the problem. In this respect, I am also considering asking Dr Oliver for a second opinion, which could be valuable in any case.

Second, related to Gilete’s findings, I bear in mind that I have internal jugular vein compression. That is the reason why I posted it here. The origin is not entirely clear (some people have it and are fully asymptomatic), but I think it was a consequence of the accident and the subsequent CCI/AAI. Typically, jugular vein compression does not cause this symptom, but I hypothesise that one possibility is that the vagus nerve (which is involved in breathing and runs next to the jugular vein) may also be compressed. I do not know whether it is possible to test this hypothesis properly, as it does not seem easy at all to make such a diagnosis. With respect to this path, my idea is to consult a more specialised ENT or a neurosurgeon focused on that who may help to isolate the cause of the shortness of breath, if that is even possible. In principle, one possible outcome of this route would be that the cause is compression of the vagus nerve. In that case, decompression could be a potential treatment. It is a serious surgery (but nothing compared with an occipito-cervical fusion), controversial (there is not much evidence, CCI is a complication, some doctors recommend fusion directly, etc.) and not widely available. There are some experts in the US (Dr Costantino and Dr Hepworth) and one in Australia (Dr Rao), but, to my knowledge, expertise is scarce in Europe. Dr Timothy in the UK used to perform it, but I am afraid he does not treat hEDS patients (at least regarding CCI).

Right now, my idea is to visit Dr Gilete again (and, eventually, also Dr Oliver) and, in parallel, to see a specialised ENT who may shed more light on my problem. I do not rule out neurologists, but the experience of people with CCI/AAI with them is very bad (as their knowledge of CCI/AAI is often very limited).

Because of the timing after the accident and the cervical findings, I wonder whether this could involve upper airway/laryngeal dysfunction, a nerve-related issue, or something structural related to the cranio-cervical junction.

Any ideas about my symptoms, specialists, etc. would be sincerely appreciated.

In particular:

  • Has anyone with hEDS/CCI/C1 jugular vein compression had air hunger when speaking, throat dryness, or dry cough?
  • Did anyone find help through laryngology/neurolaryngology/upper airway specialists?
  • If surgery was needed for C1-styloid/jugular compression, which team helped you?
  • Any recommendations in Europe, or elsewhere, for doctors who really understand this type of case?

Thank you very much in advance.

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Welcome to the forum, Janton! I am so sorry to read about the struggles you are going through. There are so many wonderful people here who are incredibly knowledgeable and provide great support.

Do you have access to any of your CT scans?

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@janton - Another welcome to our forum! I’m sorry for your miserable symptoms. We’ve had a number of members who’ve had a dry mouth, throat, &/or eyes as ES symptoms & some who’ve also had significant vocal changes or vocal loss. I don’t recall anyone who had air hunger when speaking. I do agree with you there’s a good chance that’s related to vagus nerve compression/irritation.

You could check to see if it’s possible for you to get a FIESTA or CISS MRI of your upper neck. Either of these show the nerves & are one way to look for nerve compression. We understand those types of MRIs can be difficult to get though.

The internal jugular vein (IJV), vagus nerve & internal carotid artery all “live” in the carotid sheath in the neck. When the IJV is squashed between the styloid & C1, or at least is compressed in that area of the neck, the vagus nerve gets squashed too. I strongly feel that your vocal & breathing symptoms coincide w/ your vagus nerve suffering in the same manner as your IJV whether on one side or both & that IJV decompression would also free your vagus nerve & the vocal/air hunger symptoms would subside or at least reduce.

There are other doctors in the US, a couple of whom you’ve named, Dr. Aghayev in Turkey, & Dr. Pagani in Italy & who do the surgery you would need to relieve the compressions.
•Dr. Peter Nakaji, Scottsdale, AZ, https://www.scottsdaleclinic.com

•Dr. Edward Hepworth, Denver Sinus Care, 3150 E 3rd Ave, Denver, CO 80206 (720) 899-9489, FAX (720) 953-5151, email: info@denversinuscare.com or for initial consults - kcurry@denversinuscare.com
Scottsdale Neurosurgery Specialists - 602-313-7772

•Dr. James K. Liu, 200 S. Orange Ave, Ste. 265, Livingston, NJ, Dr. James K. Liu | Top Neurosurgeon in Livingston, NJ

•Dr Peter Costantino, 4 Westchester Park Dr, 4th floor, White Plains, NY, (914) 517-8056
http://www.nyhni.org/find-a-physician/Peter-D-Costantino-MD,FACS .
Does do online or phone consults we believe.

•Dr David Cognetti, Thomas Jefferson University Hospital, Philadelphia, PA 215- 955- 6760 (Has done many successful surgeries on members). Only removes ligaments if calcified. Works with Dr Heller now to do C1 shaves
David M Cognetti MD | Jefferson Health Does do online or phone consults.

•Dr. Kamran Aghayev - Turkey, https://kamranaghayev.com

•Dr. Raffaello Pagani - Personalized Therapies for CCSVI: Effective Treatment Options or Dr. Raffaello Pagani – Vascular Surgery and CCSVI None of our members have seen this doctor but he does know about vES w/ IJV compression & appears to do surgery for it but may not shave C1.

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@Isaiah_40_31 I have a virtual visit with Dr Costantino later this month. He definitely does virtual visits. (I just wanted to share since you seemed uncertain.)

Also, Dr. Aghayev reviewed my scans and gave me feedback all through WhatsApp and entirely for free. He was also the absolute quickest to respond and diagnose me after my CT Venogram. He did offer surgery but the cost was prohibitive compared to other options available to me.

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@lsheep - I appreciate very much your warm welcoming and your kind response. I can already see that people here do their best to help others. I am quite lost right now.

I made a mistake in my message I have just edited. I have only CBCT in different positions, but no CT (so far). I am afraid that CBCT is not useful to look at that as long as it only captures bones, but let me know if it can help; I would post the images if useful.

The findings of the neurosurgeon (Dr. Gilete) in a magnetic resonance venography (MRV) were literally the following: “Left-dominant cerebral venous drainage. Imaging findings are compatible with compression of the right internal jugular vein (IJV) at the level of the C1 transverse process–digastric muscle. If cranio-cervical junction surgery is being considered, CT angiography should be considered.”

I post a couple of images below just in case.

I do not really know if my hypothesis about a possible compression of nerves makes any sense. Also, it seems that an eventual decompression might increase upper cervical instability (particularly, if it involves partial C1 resection), but I have not been able to find a definitive response. Also, I do not know if the decompression (which is a serious surgery) can be still a reasonable pathway, because an occipital-cervical fusion is a quite brutal intervention. If the choice is between a straight fusion and a decompression that can eventually lead to a fusion but not always, the latter seems to me still something to consider.

Thank you very much again for your response.

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@Isaiah_40_31 - I appreciate very much your kind a helpful message and your intention to help.

Honestly, I do not really know if my hypothesis about a possible compression of nerves makes any sense, but I think one should check absolutely every possibility before an occipito-cervical fusion.

I am going to definitively see whether and where I could get those types of images in my country (theoretically, I see that it should be possible with MRI 3T, which are available). I appreciate the suggestion. Upper-cervical instability is a very very complicated world (where people is almost always abandoned by the health care system, there are few specialists and treatment is extremely expensive), but this one seems very complex too. Apart from the MRI you suggest, it seems that other tests can help to shed light as well (MR neurography, high-resolution CT, CT angiography and maybe some tests related to ENT) .

I really thank you for the selection of doctors. I saw many in the post for newbies and it was hard to limit the list to the most relevant names… I also see that the number of options is relatively limited and that the surgery is much more specialised than I had though. I do not know where to start, maybe telehealth. I will also start to see the costs. My main worrying (and there are quite a few that are serious) is how this decompression can affect instability, which it does not seem crystal-clear. In principle, I would say that one should try decompression before a fusion, but I am not a doctor.

Thank you very much again.

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I’m glad that you’ve seen Dr Gilete as he’s been mentioned on here as an expert in CCI/AAI, as far as I’m aware we’ve not heard of anyone else in Europe who could give you more info…
@GrnyAny did a post about her symptoms from vagus nerve compression, not exactly the same as yours, but there are some similarities:
Successful Surgery for severe Vagus Nerve Compression - General / Eagle Syndrome Stories - Living with Eagle
As the vagus nerve is involved in regulating breathing, I would imagine that you could well be right about what’s causing the issues:
The Impact of the Vagus Nerve on Shortness of Breath – VagusNerve.com
Whether it’s the styloid compressing the vagus nerve, or the C1 process, & how much CCI is affecting this it’s hard for us to say.
I don’t know if you’ve seen Dr Aghayev’s talk about IJV compression, he’s in Turkey & has done quite a few surgeries for members has he shaves the C! as well as removing the styloids:
Jugular Vein Compression: A Detailed Review
And Dr Costantino:
New Video from Dr Costantino Regarding Jugular Vein Compression and Surgical Intervention - General - Living with Eagle

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Thanks again!

I will read all the stuff you has kindly suggested. Particularly, I already knew the post (I arrived there after your welcome message). I have glanced at it and some of my symptoms are very similar.

I think that at this point, I should have at least a couple of opinions of knowledgeable experts in these compression issues (so far, I have only been searching on the CCI/AAI side).

I think the key is to know the origin of the problem, and only after that one can think about an eventual solution. I am not sure that such a task is even medically feasible. Also, the issue of C1 shaving seem quite new and its relationship with CCI/AAI, complex.

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my main disabling symptom is a sensation of not getting enough air when speaking (air hunger/shortness of breath), especially when I need to project my voice (for example, when teaching). Over time, I have needed water, lozenges/sweets and a microphone just to cope, and it is really exhausting and difficult.

Hi Janton,

I don’t know whether you are standing or sitting when you teach. If you are standing, have you tried compression stockings or sitting when you teach? Does this help or reduce the symptoms of “air hunger”.

Seeing this symptom occurred after the accident to your neck it is well worth pursuing the vagus nerve or the carotid body as the culprit due to some type of compression or damage in the neck.

You might find this article useful :https://www.rthm.com/resources/blogs/dysautonomia-breathlessness

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Thank you very much.

It happens both standing and sitting, although I think it is a bit better when standing, but I do not see much difference. I might try compression socks (I have used for other problems due to EDS).

The idea you outlined and that the article supports is really helpful. My main suspiction has to do with the neck. However, having EDS, I have to be totally open to other possibilities, such as dysautonomia. I think I do not have POTS, but it seems totally reasonable to rule out anything that can be assesed.

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Hey Janton,

Does your air hunger feel like you can’t breathe enough air, like wheezing, or does it feel like you have pressure in your lungs/diaphragm area?

I ask because I have been explaining this symptom of mine for years and finally realized it’s less like I need air and more like the pressure around my diaphragm is not well regulated. If your vagus and phrenic nerve are doing their jobs well, the diaphragm is well maintained and breathing feels natural. When they are not, you can get a lot of pressure in your upper abdomen and chest which mimic air hunger.

I realized this because when I sneeze, I feel much better because that pressure is not there. Then, after a few seconds, it builds back up and I feel like I need to breathe more air, but its just pressure regulation vs an actual breathing problem.

Also, if you get high ICP from your compression, that can cause fatigue and fatigue can inhibit involuntary stabilizing muscles, responsible for posture and breathing. This makes it all worse.

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@avarj Thanks a lot for your comment. Basically, when talking, particularly if I talk loud, I feel my throat is totally dry and I feel like suffocating. This sensation also appears in the chest. Also, in the last weeks, I have pain in my diaphragm (in the opposite side where the IJV compression occurs). I do not really know. I hope I will be able to find out something else. I wish you the very best.

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Some of the hallmark symptoms of vagus nerve irritation is trouble swallowing and changes in voice. It would be worth looking into, especially if you have confirmed ES.

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Thanks. So far, I have just the MR venography and its findings are compatible with IJV compression. I will try to see if additional tests, hopefully coordinated by a doctor, can shed more light on this issue (MR neurography, high-resolution CT, CT angiography and maybe some tests related to ENT). I would like to be as sure as possible the problems come from here. Then, if that is the case, I would have to decide consequently (occipito-cervical fusion with probably C1 saving or risking to just decompression with the presence of instability). Thanks again for your interest.

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@Janton You clearly have done a very thorough investigation into your very complex condition! I have only one question to add to the excellent responses: have you have tried medication to control the coughing/air hunger?

Since this condition is affecting your ability to do your job, if you can manage the symptoms medically while you pursue a more definitive diagnosis and possible surgery, it would buy you time and improve your quality of life.

I had/have Eagle syndrome, accompanied by (among many, many other symptoms) air hunger and choking sensations, and a strange sensation of my diaphragm moving the wrong way whenever I inhaled. These particular symptoms were greatly alleviated by gabapentin, to the point where they were negligible. Surgery helped even more.

There are many such medications (gabapentin, amitriptyline, pregabalin, carbamazepine…) that are used for nerve pain and/or as antidepressants. You may have to adjust the dose until you find what works, and for some people medication just doesn’t work at all, but it’s worth trying for sure.

Surgeons tend to go for surgery first, and are less into long-term medical management, but perhaps Dr. Gilete is willing to try these types of medications? If not, maybe you could try finding another, more sympathetic neurologist or trying to persuade the previous neurologist to write you a prescription (he does already think you’re depressed…)?

My belief is that surgery is the only really decisive treatment for these compression disorders, but there’s no reason not to try medication to make your life easier and more comfortable while you pursue the surgical path, especially if it could save your job.

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@callove Thank you very much for the advice.

I have not thought about medication from the perspective you mentioned, as I did not know that it could help. Actually, I am having also problems with my diaphragm. I suppose that the use of this type of drug for neurological problems should be supervised by a neurologist rather than by a psychiatrist. Should it not?

I will then look for a good neurologist immediately, since the previous one I visited had no interest at all in helping. Right now, I am going to visit an internist at a big university hospital with the hope that she will coordinate the search for what is happening to me with other medical specialists there. My idea in 2024 was to live with my problems as best as I could, but the worsening over the last months makes it advisable to move. I believe that some problems should be addressed sooner rather than later, particularly if there is some neurological damage.

Actually, I am on antidepressants. I have been heavily depressed for two years because of my health problems and their severe impact on my life. Apart from losing most of my hobbies, my job was part of my identity (perhaps that was not a good thing) and I face a lot of limitations in dealing with it. It is also very important to have an income in order to look for medical care in the case of rare conditions, where one is almost totally abandoned by the public health care system or by insurance. The process of searching for medical help with rare conditions has been traumatic in itself. Unfortunately, it must be very common in rare diseases. As I could not really cope with the situation well, I looked for help from mental health specialists. The first psychiatrist I saw had absolutely no knowledge of and no interest in my physical health conditions (and he did not really listen to me). He considered that my problems were purely psychological and diagnosed me with hypochondriacal deliriums. This heavily damaged the relationship with part of my family (who stopped believing me because of that) and part of my friends. As everything was supposed to be psychological, he put me on very heavy medication. Some months after that, I was diagnosed by a neurosurgeon with my conditions. Obviously, I changed professionals. I do not think I am an isolated case.

Thanks again, I was just venting too much.

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Hi! and welcome.

about 5 years ago i had surgery for IJVC. My left styloid process was removed. My primary symptom was vertigo. Dr. Omilie in MN did the surgery.

My vertigo is back. :frowning: but i had a few good years.

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@tokenegret I am sorry so much for your suffering. I hope you can find a solution. I wish you (and your dogs; I have one and he is one of the main supporters) the very best.

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I’m sorry that you’ve lost your hobbies and had damaged relationships with your family and friends, sadly as you suspected it’s not just you, we hear this from members regularly. And it’s hard whatever country you’re in to get diagnosed and treated, but it does like you’re doing an excellent job of researching and advocating for yourself. I hope that the intern you’re seeing can co-ordinate all the testing for you!

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Thanks so much for your empathy, Jules. I wish you the best. This forum is really a great place to share experiences, with many people willing to help or advise.

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