New member—Advice needed for internal jugular vein compression and possible angled styloid process

Hello Everyone, I’m excited to be here and thank you for letting me be apart of your group. It has been an utterly long & exhausting journey.

Here’s my story—after a car accident I was experiencing:

Vision Problems (having trouble focusing/seemed like my peripheral vision was off), balance issues, brain fog (thought it was due to stress/eye related and worked with an optometrist.) Right arm weakness/hand tremors when trying to do tasks that required a steady hand.

About 5 months later, intense tension headaches on the right—neck pain that started on the right then affected the left.

For about 7 month after that, I was dealing with facial pain, ear pain, sinus pain, some hearing changes & more neck pain. It started gradually and then intensified. I was also experiencing facial asymmetry.

Then came the Urgent Care/ER visit (2023), I left a TMJ specialist (I did a bunch of chomping with my jaw to test for the disorder). After I left, it felt like I went into shock…everything seemed brighter and disorienting. I had muscle weakness that radiated down my throat/numbness in my mouth. I was unable to close my jaw without using hand and thought it may have come out of socket. I couldn’t talk without holding my jaw up. I had increased chronic pain, muscle tremors in jaw with pain going down my neck. ------Urgent Care dismissed me and told me to go to the ER if I happens again—went to the ER later that day, they prescribed me flexeril and sent me on my way. The next day, I went to the dentist—I got a panoramic X-Ray. But he dismissed me and told me to go back to the TMJ specialist.

3 months after this, I went back to the dentist for a follow up. We finally went over the X-ray, he told me that everything was fine. But he neglected to tell me about an impacted upper right wisdom tooth until I pointed it out.

Then comes more neck, right shoulder, jaw, facial pain. I was feeling more pressure and irritation along my right temporalis.

3 months later, I went to an Oral and maxillofacial surgeon to get the wisdom tooth removed. I felt amazing after the removal..but that didn’t last long. About 1 month after, I was experiencing nerve pain in my eyebrows and along my scalp. My eyebrows and head felt twisted/compressed with chronic headaches as well as bilateral shoulder pain. :expressionless_face:

It gets more complicated with hypermobility syndrome (which was undiagnosed at that time) and some other things that can mask/overlap with ES. But I’m going to leave those out because it just makes things more complicated.

In 2025, I had 2 incidents that lead me to the ER. I was doing a self adjustment with my head/jaw to relieve my constant head pressure. The feeling I felt this day was the same feeling I had in 2023. But without my jaw falling off and muscle tremors. It was more of a decompression feeling. Along with postnasal drip and the feeling of a lump in my throat when I swallowed.------At the first ER, I received a head and brain CT scan. They said everything looked fine. My partner and I went to a restaurant for a quick bite to eat. As I was eating, I started feeling like I was in shock, disoriented, everything seemed brighter, when he was talking to me his voice sounded like it was coming from across the room but he was in front of me. So we headed to another ER, they admitted me. I received a CTA HEAD WWO CONTRAST and CTA NECK WWO IV CONTRAST. I stayed over night and the doctor recommended me to see a neurologist for possible post concussion.

The next month, I went to an oral surgeon. To check if there was a residual cyst from the wisdom tooth removal— Panoramic X-Ray didn’t show one

About 3 months after deep diving into what could’ve cause this I came across Eagle syndrome. I went to see an ENT, asked him to check the CTA (from the ER) for Eagle syndrome specifically the stylohyoid ligament because my symptoms seemed vascular. The interpretation showed—IMPRESSION: Bilateral calcified stylohyoid ligaments, measuring up to 3.3 cm in length on the right and 3.0 cm in length on the left, resulting in mild effacement of the proximal right internal jugular vein and moderate effacement of the proximal left internal jugular vein. No arterial compression is seen. The overall constellation of findings is nonspecific, but could be seen in the clinical setting of Eagle syndrome.

I made another appointment with the ENT, he did tests. My symptoms were a numb and dull pain at the time. He dismissed me and said it wasn’t ES because my pain wasn’t sharp and shooting.

Saw a neurologist, he diagnosed functional neurological disorder.

Fast forward to 2026, I went to see Dr. Schindler at OHSU. He interpreted the CTA: The right styloid process is 30.2 mm long and the left is 24.1 mm long. while some overlap with Eagle’s Syndrome-- in total are not consistent with elongated styloid processes. The foramen ovale is partially visualized. The temporomandibular joints appear to have thin cartilage.

His assessment: She does have laxity of the temporomandibular joints bilaterally with ability to sublux these with minimal. She is concerned that she could have calcification along the stylohyoid ligaments causing compression. I don’t see this on the prior CT angiogram, but this could be repeated. I do not believe that she has Eagle’s Syndrome or a vascular compression syndrome. I believe that her symptoms are more consistent with trigeminal neuralgia. She has some laryngeal hyperfunction and muscle tension dysphonia, but I think that these are secondary to her symptoms rather than creating them.

I have another appointment with him in October for a dedicated CT scan of the neck.

The reason I’m adamant about ES, is because comparing 2023 symptoms and 2025 ER visits, it adds up. The only images I have are panoramic X-rays to compare and they both (at least to me) look like possible ES. With noticeable crowding of the teeth before and after the wisdom tooth removal. I also dug up an old X-ray from before the accident to use as a baseline—there’s less teeth crowding and no sign of possible ES on that one also I had no symptoms then.

Also, I’m popping something behind my back molars on both sides and when I pop them it relieves the head/face pressure I’m experiencing. Dr. Schindler said it could be the Pterygoid hamulus. Regardless, I’m still popping them because that’s the only thing that’s helping. I’m also working with an acupuncturist that uses a long needle twisting and pulling technique that is helping relieve some of the tension as well.

Somethings I’m wondering :

Since I was experiencing facial asymmetry after the accident. Could the styloid process have angled that high?

Some research I found stated that removing the impacted upper right wisdom tooth —removes the direct irritant but not the already elongated styloid process or the adapted neural pathways.

Would length matter if it’s angled? Could the removal have caused the process to angle more and not show up on the CTA?

Is the dedicated CT scan of the neck in October going to be enough?

Shouldn’t the styloid process and stylohyoid ligament be calculated together? How does that even work?

Thank you for reading and I hope bolding the text on certain sections makes it easier (everything was blending together so I had to do it lol). I’d appreciate any advice or recommendations y’all might have. :heart:

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Hello @CTT, sorry to hear you are having so many symptoms for so long. I am also on a similar path myself and we have a lot of the same symptoms, as you will find with many others on this site.

One thing I would encourage you to do is download the CTA images you had done of your head and neck. You can use a program called RadiANT (free download online) to create a 3D reconstruction of your images. There are many posts about this on the site, and other members might request specific snapshots as well to help you.

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It’s disappointing that Dr Schindler didn’t agree that you have ES - lots of your symptoms are common ones, especially considering your CT states IJV compression. ( Even though the report says mild to moderate compression, this can be enough to cause symptoms like derealisation, head pressure, vision issues…) Trigeminal and Facial neuralgias are also common with ES, and can cause aching rather than electric shock like pains- this is atypical/ Type 2 neuralgia. Obviously your jaw pain could possibly be caused by TMJD , but this is also a common ES symptoms… The feeling of a lump in your throat is a classic ES symptom & one of the most well known…

The angle is just as important as the length, but the styloids should still show on a CT regardless of the angle , although sometimes depending on the CT images, it can be ‘hidden’ behind the jaw bone for example. There are software programmes that can remove structures so others become clearer… Measuring the styloid length on a CT is not always accurate - because CT images are done in slices this can affect measurement. If the stylo-hyoid ligaments are calcified from the end of the styloid downwards, this should all be measured together, as often you can’t tell where the styloid would end & the calcified ligament starts, but you can also get separate sections of calcification further down the ligament.
So if you’re having another CT, I would request it to be done with contrast, and timed to show both the arteries and the veins. If you get more symptoms with certain head positions, you could ask for it to be done dynamically, so in those positions, and this would show better what’s happening. But personally, I wouldn’t waste any more time waiting until October for this, and see a new doctor. You could ask to be referred to a doctor who understands ES & Vascular ES better, it’s worth it even if you have to travel. And in the meantime you could be sending your CT to a doctor for assessment- Dr Osborne for example will review CTs and does online consults?
Hope this helps… :hugs:

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@CTT My first noticeable symptoms were right-sided facial and neck swelling, which caused asymmetry along with jaw pain, facial pressure and upper cervical pain. It continued to progressively worsen from there. Post-operatively, the swelling was actually one of the first things I noticed a significant improvement in.

Obviously not a doctor, but based on my personal experience, Eagle Syndrome absolutely seemed capable of causing facial asymmetry. In my case, it appeared to be related to swelling likely caused by the compression.

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@CTT - Though we have several doctors on our Doctors List in your state, none of them seem as experience with ES as others we have on our list - for example Dr. Osborne whom @Jules suggested you request a consult with.

Here’s a quote from @LisaMaria’s recent post regarding Dr. Osborne’s view of ES diagnosis which we completely agree with:
Another thing I learned from Dr. Osborne that I think is important…the idea of a certain length being regarded as a diagnoses criteria, he said that is totally antiquated and he wished it would be done away with. He said being able to see the styloids on ct now, and especially 3d images, makes it a total game changer because we can now see very well what is going on with the styloid and see what it’s messing with and its not about length but about what’s going on in that individual person. People that need help won’t necessarily get the help they need if they don’t meet this antiquated length criteria that’s still being implemented.

Here’s the link to her full post as well:

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@JGont Thanks for reaching out. It’s definitely comforting to know I’m not alone in this. I’m sorry you’re on this same path too. I’m glad there’s a community that can help us navigate through this. I do have a CD of the CTA somewhere..I just have to find it. I also have a CBCT, but I know that doesn’t show vascular compression.

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Of course @CTT, I think you’ll find everyone on here pretty supportive. It’s very hard going through a long process of trying diffetent things and diagnosis that sometimes don’t pan out. I think the advice that Jules and Isaiah have given above are good next steps for you. Please keep looking into doctors that can help you and do not be afraid to advocate for yourself.

If you don’t have the CD anymore I was able to request a new one be sent to me. I think it is fairly standard practice, or potentially they can make the files available to you online for download. A bunch of really awesome people on the forum helped me interpret my images so I had better questions to ask at my apppointments.

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@Jules :raising_hands: Thank you for explaining all of that! Your points are so valid. I couldn’t mentally do any more research, but I will definitely look into Dr. Osborne. It was disappointing that he didn’t agree, but at least he was nice.

I forgot to mention on my original post. Three days before my ER visit in 2023, I went to Urgent Care for sinus pressure, bilateral ear fullness, lightheadedness, on-and-off facial swelling, and ongoing eye pressure. My tinnitus got worse in the right ear and gradually shifted to the left, feeling like my ears were underwater. They diagnosed me with dysfunction of both eustachian tubes.

Interestingly, when my symptoms first started, the initial pain was shock-like, progressing from pain to pressure to compression. Since being diagnosed with hypermobility syndrome, I learned that people with the syndrome adapt to pain rather than having localized pain. The nervous system rewires itself to amplify and generalize pain signals to compensate for unstable joints.

You’re definitely right that shifting the bony projections eases my symptoms. I was experiencing debilitating compression head pressure. It was so bad I couldn’t talk, eat, or move my head without constant pressure building up. Based on a panorex and the release sensation I felt on the left side of my head after an adjustment, I think I might have accidentally fractured it, which possibly caused the whole ER visit in 2025.

I’m so glad your surgery was successful in resolving your tooth pain! I’ve been wondering why I’ve had tooth pain for the past couple of months, but now it makes sense.

I’ve added a collage of my Panoramic X-Rays. I don’t know if I’m seeing things but on the 2025 X-ray, the left styloid process looks fractured.

1st: No ES symptoms (Taken before car accident)

2nd: ES symptoms (Taken the day after 2023 ER)

3rd: ES symptoms (Taken about a month after 2025 ER)

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@MGORNEAU Thank you for sharing your experience with me! I feel like your opinion is valid because you’ve had firsthand insight since you’ve dealt with ES.

I drove myself crazy wondering why my face was going crooked. I never experienced neck swelling but my face wasn’t so lucky. It’s so frustrating though because when I bring it up at appointments they make it seem like I’m just trying to be vain. Experiencing facial asymmetry is no joke. I’m glad that surgery resolved that for you!

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@Isaiah_40_31 :raising_hands::raising_hands::raising_hands: Thank you for sharing this! I really needed to hear this!

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@JGont Thank you! I actually really needed to hear that. I agree :100: the information Jules and Isaiah gave has put my mind at ease. I’ve been hesitant to see another provider but it’s amazing what words of encouragement can do.

I do have a screenshot of an interpretation a neurologist did. I’m wondering if this will give any insight on my symptoms while I work on getting the CD.

We’re all in this together @CTT! I would say the person I’ve seen help the most on images like this is @TML. That being said, I am unfamiliar with the level of the spine at the picture is showing and might not be what they usually look for. I am also not wanting to put TML on the spot, so apologies, you were just the authority and helpful on many of the posta I have seen!

Here is thr annotated image that Isaiah was able to put together from my own images as an example.

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@JGont I see what you mean. Thanks for sharing your image with me.

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I am so so sorry you have been through so much trying to get a diagnosis! We have a similar timeline and I know it can feel like an eternity.

My worst side is only 30mm but the angle is what is causing my issues on that side. It looks like a lightning bolt on 3D and my ENT told me it was a “very unique shape” lol. You can absolutely have symptoms with your length.

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The styloids can sometimes appear as if they’re fractured if there’s a little gap between the styloid process & calcification of the stylo-hyoid ligament, I can’t see clearly enough on the panoramic x-rays I’m afraid.
I’m not sure with your axial CT image & CT report so wouldn’t be confident to say!

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@CTT - The vertebra in the image you posted doesn’t look like C1 but I’m not sure which one it is. As @JGont said, the C1 level axial images are the ones we’re best able to “decipher”.

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It seems like the second picture has the best view of the styloids. Take anything said with a grain of salt as this is still fairly new to me. But the circled parts look to be the styloids to me, and look a little long. The CT scan would be the best, but while waiting on the images wanted to give some feedback!

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Thank you so much for this! It’s incredibly validating to hear, I really appreciate you sharing your experience. It has been such a long, frustrating road. A lightning bolt shape sounds wild! It makes total sense that the angle and shape would play a big role. I hope you’re on track for a styloidectomy so you can be ES free soon!

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That completely makes sense. Thanks for taking a look at them!

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Thanks for checking it out. I wish the neurologist gave more information in his interpretation. On the bright side, I did end up finding the CTA CD. :raising_hands: The computer I have at home is an all-in-one so I have to go to a friend’s house to take a look at it.

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