Opinion on eagles diagnosis

Hi all!!! Would love some help - I have a bit of a weird case but I know many people with eagles have complex histories so hoping you guys can give me an opinion of imaging etc

Hi everyone, I’m hoping to hear from members who have dealt with conflicting opinions about Eagle syndrome, particularly alongside constant under-jaw tightness, throat pain and facial spasms. I’m struggling to understand what is causing what and who would be best to evaluate it.

My jaw pain began in 2024 after a wolf grabbed me by my ponytail and dragged me around for several minutes while I was working at an animal sanctuary. I subsequently had several whiplash incidents, followed by a very forceful dental extraction involving substantial pressure on my jaw. I was largely bedbound for about a year and underwent treatment for craniocervical instability, including PRP, prolotherapy, PT and stem-cell treatments. My symptoms eventually largely resolved, apart from some SCM pain and weakness, and I had several months when I was doing much better.

Eagle syndrome was being investigated during that earlier period. My July 2024 CBCT report described mild calcification of both stylohyoid ligaments, but the radiologist felt it was insufficient to call Eagle syndrome and did not explain my symptoms. However, Dr. Osborne, Dr. Omrani and Dr. Nora Kahenasa have supported an Eagle diagnosis at different points. A few doctors firmly told me I did not have it, while others told me I did. Because I had been reassured so strongly that I didn’t have Eagle syndrome, I didn’t think I needed to be especially cautious about that possibility during PT.

My symptoms returned during about four months of intensive treatment involving frequent traction, repeated thoracic extension over a foam roller, neck mobilization, deep massage and digging pressure underneath my jaw, and forceful jaw stretching. I also had chiropractic adjustments. Much of the jaw treatment was done because the problem was initially thought to be TMJ-related. These treatments repeatedly aggravated the area, and the under-jaw work was followed by significant swelling, tenderness and persistent pain.

The symptoms that keep bringing me back to Eagle syndrome are a deep, stuck-in-the-throat sensation, beneath the corner of my jaw. It feels as though something is digging into that area and pulling on my throat and jaw from underneath. I also get intense pressure into the left roof of my mouth.

Swallowing and neck rotation are among my biggest triggers. Swallowing—even saliva—can cause severe, sharp, searing or electric pain toward my ear, jaw and tongue, along with increased gripping underneath my jaw. Turning my head from side to side or looking up markedly intensifies the deep digging, pulling and throat pain. I also have clicking or snapping underneath my jaw and along my upper neck. These ordinary movements can be extremely painful.

The tightness is constant, with additional flares during movement and swallowing. The whole sling underneath my jaw feels gripped, swollen and burning, from the floor of my mouth beneath my tongue through my chin, jawline, front of my neck and the area underneath my lower lip. It affects both sides, although the left is worse. The area is extremely tender, and even light pressure can reproduce the pulling and nerve-like pain. It is markedly worse when I lie down, which makes resting difficult.

I’m also having lower-facial twitching and spasms, with painful tightness when I smile, frown, purse my lips or talk. Even bringing a cup to my mouth or drinking through a straw can be extremely painful. My doctors have been discussing the digastric and other muscles in the suprahyoid chain, as well as the platysma, as possible contributors after the repeated stretching and pressure. Nearby ligament problems have also been raised. Dr. Aufiero’s MRI order described my CBCT as negative for classic Eagle syndrome bone ossification and asked for assessment of the surrounding ligaments and soft tissues.

Another complication is that I developed persistent raw, burning throat pain after inhaling very hot steam in a sauna in April 2026. Since then, my throat has been sensitive to smells, temperature and food textures, with episodes of clamping or spasm. A superior laryngeal nerve block gave very little relief.

I’m now working with an ENT who thinks I have both Eagle syndrome and laryngeal hypersensitivity/spasm, and that they are aggravating each other. It has been extremely difficult to distinguish the laryngeal pain from possible glossopharyngeal or trigeminal nerve pain, and to understand how those overlap with the constant muscular tightness and facial spasms. My understanding is that intubation isn’t a workable option for me at the moment because of the laryngeal hypersensitivity and spasm, which further complicates figuring out the next step.

Light perineural injections around the platysma briefly helped some nerve pain, but the deeper under-jaw constriction remained.

I’d really appreciate members’ experiences with this kind of overlap. Has anyone had Eagle syndrome alongside laryngeal hypersensitivity or spasm, with severe worsening during swallowing, neck rotation and lying down? How did your doctors distinguish the different sources of pain and work out a treatment plan? I’m struggling to know which specialist to turn to and would love recommendations for someone who could consider the whole picture, including the concerns about intubation.

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You were quicker to post than I was to send my welcome email :joy:. I suggested there based on your lack note about symptoms that you might have IJV compression because of the nature of your neck injuries, but I’d say from the information you just posted, that is not among the causes of your symptoms. It sounds like your symptoms are nerve related.

Most of the symptoms you’ve listed are among those we have seen with an ES diagnosis. No two people have the same ES symptoms set. We have members who’ve had larynx, hyoid & styloid issues all operating to cause the array of symptoms they’ve had though it’s been a while since any of them were on the forum. As your ENT suggested, the laryngeal hypersensitivity & swallowing challenges could be aggravating each other. Swallowing issues are common w/ ES & are caused by a couple of nerves - the glossopharyngeal & vagus. The hypoglossal & glossopharyngeal nerves both affect tongue function & the GPN can contribute to burning in the mouth. Your facial spasms are most likely being caused by your facial nerve being irritated though the trigeminal nerve could also be involved depending on where the spasms are occurring. The tightness/constriction under your chin is very possibly from your digastric muscles as you suggested. They also play a major role in swallowing. I had trouble from mine from ES.

Dr. Osborne would be a good choice with the challenges you have, but Dr. Cognetti in Philadelphia, PA & Dr. Hackman in Chapel Hill, NC, are both very experienced with ES + hyoid bone & possibly larynx surgical work. Both do telehealth consults so you wouldn’t need to travel initially to see them.

•Dr. Trevor Hackman, UNC Ear, Nose and Throat Oncology Clinic – in the N.C. Cancer Hospital, 101 Manning Drive, Chapel Hill, NC 27514, (984) 974-6484, Trevor G. Hackman | UNC Health

•Dr David Cognetti, Thomas Jefferson University Hospital, Philadelphia 215- 955- 6760 (Has done many successful surgeries on members). David M Cognetti MD | Jefferson Health Does do online or phone consults.

Here are some links that might be helpful:

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You should be able to post images now, it was just because you’re a new member…

It is hard when you have possible overlapping conditions to distinguish between symptoms, but @Isaiah_40_31 has given you info about what could be causing some of them, & how common they are with ES. Unfortunately often the only way to tell is to have surgery and see what resolves, but if you’re not able to be intubated at the moment obviously surgery isn’t a good idea…

@Jess1 posted some info about laryngeal spasms in this discussion, she’s also in CA so might have suggestions for a doctor or speech & language therapist for you. You can send a private message to her by clicking on her avatar:

IJV compression and shortness of breath - General - Living with Eagle

Has anyone been treated for both ES and hyoid bone syndrome? - General - Living with Eagle

I replied to your other post, & suggested that maybe you get an updated CT done, as this might show if there’s more calcification since your last one. We do often see unfortunately that many radiologists dismiss quite significant calcification as not important, or believe that styloids aren’t elongated when they are… So might be interesting to look at your images.

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Thanks for tagging me, Jules! I have some overlap in symptoms (laryngeal spasm, globus sensation, hemifacial spasm, difficulty swallowing) and some symptoms don’t overlap as much.

But yep I’m in California and have seen a gazillion doctors so I’m happy to pass along recommendations! I was assessed by multiple ENTs on this list for ES, and though parts of my stylohyoids are calcified, they don’t think I have ES. I do have IJV compression from my C1 but right now I’m not being advised to proceed with surgery for that.

Unfortunately, I’m still a big question mark but have some neuromuscular consults coming up soon and I’ll happily update the group if they turn out to be helpful. :slight_smile:

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Hi Jess!

Who are the best Dr’s you’ve seen to address the spasms. And do you have severe tightness and pain? Thank you so much and im so sorry youre struggling would love to hear more about your symptoms

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Hey @alexandra.p I am so sorry for all that you are going through! We have very similar symptoms and potential causes like the whiplash. The swallowing issues are what I consider my most pressing symptom (I am on a VERY soft food diet because I literally can’t even swallow anything with texture anymore.), followed by the ear pain & throat pain. Please feel free to message me if you ever need someone to talk to :green_heart:

Do you ever lose your voice or feel like your throat suddenly stops working when speaking? This happens to me, and I usually have to have a sip of water to “reset my throat” for lack of an official term.

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@alexandra.p - From what I can see, you appear to have ponticulus posticus AKA arcuate foramen AKA Kimmerle’s Anomaly on the right side of your C1 vertebra. This can cause debilitating symptoms for some people but not for others. Our member @MGORNEAU recently had surgery for this problem. I’m surprised it hasn’t been mentioned to you. Below are a couple of images where I’ve pointed it out.

Your images are quite unique, & it’s difficult to really tell what the situation is w/ your styloids because of the way the pictures were printed. I agree w/ @Jules’ comment that getting an updated CT scan would be a good idea. When you get an updated CT scan, you can either request that the radiology clinic convert your CT images to 3D for you, or you can be easily convert them yourself using radiantviewer.com for PCs or Bee Dicom Viewer App for Macs, but you’ll need to request your images on a CD in order to do that. We highly recommend not leaving a radiology appt. w/o receiving 1-2 copies of your imaging on CD.

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Thank you so much for all your help! Just got updated scans Will post them, you guys are life savers!

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Oh gosh im so sorry you are going through it too! Me too !! I do lose my voice in the sense that its horse or it feels like my throat sudddenly shuts especially with smells/ texture. Message me anytime <3 its such a rough journey

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Yes! It feels like my throat just stops working together all at once… it’s a very weird and nerve wracking thing to have happen. So sorry you are experiencing this too!

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