The journey continues... post bilateral, insights from Kjetil Larsen

Hello, friends,

A quick summary… 2.5 years ago I developed a tremor in my left arm/hand that started a few days after a hard chiro adjustment. My left leg joined the party 6 months later (I unfortunately had continued chiro). I was screened and tested for everything, and had a brain MRI which was normal. I had initially suspected neck issues, and went to Caring Medical for prolo, which, unfortunately, did not help. Dr. Hauser did, however, do more digging, and requested another MRI and CT scans which revealed elongated styloids and IJV compression on the left side (along with concurring neck ultrasounds indicating IIH). He did point out that C1 was the main culprit, but the styloid was not allowing for much space for the IJV. He also asked more questions about my history (feeling that there had to be a past injury in addition to the chiro manipulation), and we concluded that this probably started 7 years ago when I was running with my dog, literally flew over her, and landed face first (chin & nose) on the sidewalk. A fractured pinkie finger, road rash, no concussion… I thought I had escaped fairly unharmed! It makes sense that my neck took a little beating.

I had a bilateral styloidectomy in May of this year with Dr. Hackman. He said there was a ton of inflammation on the left side, and the tremor increased immediately after surgery, which he took as a sign that we hit the right spot. Went back to Dr. Hauser, who did another CBCT, showing that dang C1 still compressing the jugular. He recommended against more prolo, and said he could refer me to Dr. Fargen if I wanted. In the meantime, I’ve been trying Atlas Orthoganol, which at times has really made a big difference, but has not stayed. Oddly enough, the tremor also stops completely when I lie down to go to sleep.

I set up a virtual consultation last month with Kjetil Larsen (he’s currently in Columbia finishing med school) and sent him all my scans. I wish I would have recorded the call, as there was so much information! He took measurements, and I did note that he said, “the transverse process is far anterior to to the posterior aspect for the jugular foramen, especially on the left side: 9mm on right, 11mm on left.” Luckily, he shared my case on his Instagram page… basically his notes from our appointment. I’ve attached screenshots below.

I have found a wonderful primary care doctor who is very interested in getting to the bottom of this. He ordered a neck MRI (no contrast), which a radiologist reviewed, just noting “minor” issues at (I believe) C5, with no mention of C1. I’ve sent the MRI to Kjetil, and we have another virtual appt this Wednesday. He is so knowledgeable and passionate about his work… I’m very excited to hear what he has to say.

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@DeeCeeNorth - Kjetil Larsen has been mentioned on this forum many times & always w/ good reviews. I’m so glad you pursued an appointment with him & got answers that are helping to demystify your situation. It’s interesting that Dr. Hauser suggested seeing Dr. Fargen who is more of a “stent guy” vs Dr. Costantino who does the vascular decompression surgeries & has a neurosurgeon assist who does the C1 shaves. Regardless, I’m so glad you have a significantly better idea of what is causing your remaining symptoms & hope that you’re able to get resolution in the least invasive way possible.

Would you please share Kjetil Larsen’s contact information with us. I’d like to put it in our Doctors List. Thank you!

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Thank you, @Isaiah_40_31. I hope so, too!

I’m not sure, but I don’t think Dr. Hauser is as familiar with C1 shaves and decompression surgeries. He confidently referred me to Dr. Hackman for the styloidectomies, which I was glad for. Unfortunately, Dr. Costantino does not take my insurance… neither does Dr. Hepworth. Dr. Nakaji is in-network, so if I have to pursue further surgery, I’ll probably contact him. I believe the tricky part is going to involve getting insurance to cover more testing to see if Kjetil’s thoughts about the “neurovascular bundle” and “vagal friction” are causing the issue. It makes perfect sense to me. I think it’s quite interesting that the tremors stop completely as soon as I lie down and relax, with my head on a Denneroll pillow. Insurance refused to cover the cervical MRI… said it was “investigative,” and any answers from it wouldn’t account for my symptoms. I love how insurance companies think they are more knowledgeable than doctors. Breathing… one step at a time. My doc also ordered an EMG, which I have next week.

I have always contacted Kjetil and set up appointments from his website. https://mskneurology.com/booking/
You can choose the amount of time, and his prices are listed. I felt it was quite reasonable, given his knowledge and expertise. You do have to have a Skype account (easy to set up), and he requests that you send imaging ahead of time. I used WeTransfer.com. Great for large files, and free.

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Sounds like a very good move consulting Kjetil Larsen then, it’s great that he’s so through looking at all possibilities…Also good the Dr Hackman removed your styloids well too!
I hope that you’re able to sort out the insurance issues and get further testing, would be good to get confirmation of whether the C1 process is the whole issue before embarking on any more treatment! I hope that it doesn’t involve any more surgery…thanks for the update & please keep us posted about your journey :hugs:

@Isaiah_40_31 he is already on the list, at the bottom as he’s not a qualified doctor, I’ve added the booking link as well as his website which was on there :+1:

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Thank you, @Jules, for taking care of adding the booking link for Kjetil Larsen on our Doctors List. I knew he was on there but couldn’t find him last night after a cursory look so added him in Colombia but will take that entry out now.

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I put him at the end as I believe he was based Norway when he first was suggested but not actually qualified as a doctor yet? It’s great that members can have online consults :grinning:

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