Up in Denver again - Surgery for second side on Monday 2/12/'24

Hi friends,

first of all I’d like to apologize for being quiet here in the last time. I tried to follow as good as possible and my thoughts had been at the one or the other of you although I wasn’t able to write. I’m sorry I had a lot of duties and preparations to do for the trip and other concentration tasks that were quite hard and aggravated symptoms and weren’t good for my mood overall.

But now as you already could guess from the title all tasks are completed and we are back in beautiful wintery Colorado again. Already had the pre op appt and all is set for the second side, revision surgery for jugular decompression with Dr. H. on Monday. Really hoping that everything runs smooth and successful. I’m confident I’m in best hands. Dr. H. is the only doctor I allow to operate on me a second time, even though it will be the 7th time in total that my neck has been cut because of these nasty styloids.
Surgery last time in 2022 was already pretty good for symptoms relief, unfortunately symptoms didn’t subside completely so that second surgery became necessary. Hopefully the operation will bring the desired success and provide further relief from symptoms. I’ll keep you updated…
If you like every prayer, positive thought or good vibe is welcome again.

Warmest regards from wintery Denver :green_heart:

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So sorry that you’re needing another surgery, but of course will pray that it goes smoothly and is your last one you need! God bless :pray: :hugs:

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I’m looking forward to hearing about your amazingly positive outcome in a few months or sooner! I will also be praying for you tomorrow. :heart:

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Quick update: I’ve made it through the surgery. All went very well. Also received a photo of my nicely inflated jugular vein. The incision is surprisingly small on the photo.
Feeling pretty good, exept my neck muscles on surgery side are feeling bit more like whiplashed than last time. We could also enjoy the obligatory post-operative burger reward at in-n-out already. :yum:
I’ll take a good rest now and keep cooling before I come up with more details.

Thank you all so much for your prayers, positive thoughts and support. :green_heart: :hugs:

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Glad the surgery is done and praying for a smooth recovery :pray: :hugs: :hamburger:

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Update after surgery with Dr. Hepworth (2024)

Hi friends,

sorry it took me so long to post an update. After I started to feel a bit better, there were (and still are) a lot of things that had piled up over the years of severe illness that I needed to sort out. On top of that, I have to use my limited energy and resources mainly for rehab and for trying to restore my ability to work again, so writing updates was not my first priority.

The short version: I’m definitely doing better than before – but I’m still far from being fully back to “normal life”.

I also want to stress very clearly that these improvements only became possible because of the surgery with Dr. Hepworth. Before that, my situation had been getting worse and worse over the years, with a continuous downward trend. Since the last operation in 2024, for the first time it feels like things are slowly going uphill again – as if the worst part of the valley has finally been passed.

After so many years of almost complete limitation from Jugular-Eagle-related issues and several surgeries in the head/neck area, my body is pretty deconditioned and full of old compensation patterns. The venous side of things has improved a lot compared to the pre-op situation, and many of the worst symptoms have eased, but there are still clear functional limitations in everyday life. I still can’t tolerate full physical or mental load.

Right now my “main job” is rehabilitation:

  • structured training to slowly build up strength and endurance again

  • physiotherapy

  • osteopathy, pain therapy

  • neural therapy and work on the scars and surrounding tissue

The main goal is to get rid of the protective/compensatory postures I developed over the years and to restore a more normal muscle tone and tension pattern throughout the whole body, especially neck, shoulder girdle and jaw area.

One additional piece that turned out to be quite important for me was hormones. Because of my persistent exhaustion, and after Dr. Hepworth suggested checking stress hormones, I had a more detailed work-up done. That led to a thorough evaluation of my sex hormones (including free testosterone) following Abraham Morgentaler’s concept. It turned out that I had a relevant testosterone deficiency, which may well be a consequence of the many years of severe illness and possibly also of the long-standing venous problems and pressure issues in the brain. Since this has been addressed, my rehab training finally seems to “pay off” much more: recovery from sessions is better, strength gains are more noticeable, and overall my body seems to respond more normally again. From what I’ve read, testosterone is i.e. also relevant for bone metabolism and nerve healing, which makes this even more plausible in my case.

Training (swimming and gym) is going better and better – I can do more than even a year ago – but it’s very clear that after so many years of dysfunction this will be a long-term project and will need a lot of consistent, intensive rehab work. I try to see it as a marathon, not a sprint.

I am extremely grateful to Dr. Hepworth and his whole team for making this turning point possible in the first place. And I also want to say a very heartfelt thank you to everyone - especially @Isaiah_40_31 , @Jules , @Snapple2020 , @vdm , @Mod_support, @KoolDude - here on the forum who has supported me over the years – whether through posts, messages, silently following along, thinking of me, or through your prayers. It has meant (and still means) a lot to me, especially on the really dark days.

So: I’m very grateful that, thanks to the last surgery, things have clearly improved and the general direction has changed from “downhill” to “slowly uphill” – but I also want to be honest that I’m still not “back to normal” and still working hard on recovery every single day.

Best wishes and Happy Thanksgiving to all of you

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Thank you for your update, and for all the research you do to help members, it’s much appreciated!
I’m pleased for you that you feel you’re going forwards now, and that you’re still seeing improvements. It sounds like surgery has helped, but your own research and hard work has been a big part of it too!
Take care & God bless :folded_hands:

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Thank you for your update, @TheDude. Honestly, it’s good for our members who are sooner post op than you are, to know of the struggles of another member who had surgery several years ago but is continuing on the healing journey & still seeing forward progress. I hope what you’ve written will encourage those who are having slower than expected recoveries.

I’m glad Dr. Hepworth mentioned getting your hormones checked & that doing so has provided another answer as to why you continued to feel emotionally low & tired. We hear a lot about HRT for women & don’t think of it so often for men so it’s good that you brought this up as well. Both genders can struggle w/ a need for supplemental hormones for various reasons as we age, when we have prolonged illness/pain, surgeries, & so on.

You are very appreciated here & it’s very good to hear from you. Keep your focus on your full recovery which I hope will be achieved sooner than you expect. :hugs: :folded_hands:

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DUDE,

It it so nice to get an update from you and the kind thank you to us all. Your post was very insightful and helpful to me because I am struggling again and scheduled to see Dr. Hepworth in early January. My original ES surgery was with a surgeon who did not look closely as vascular compression so I am coming back around to it now. I can relate so much to the years of dysfunction and how rehab will be a long road. I am amazed at your journey it took for you get get to this place. I remember being pretty worried about you especially when you would disappear for months at a time.

I am so glad you are on the road to recover.:smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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Oh no, @Snapple2020 , I’m sorry that you’re looking at more surgery! @Isaiah_40_31 had more surgery with Dr Hepworth for the same reason…

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Hi Jules! Nice to hear from you. isaiah and I have kept in touch and it was at her urging I sought a consult with Dr. H. Had some pretty bad vertigo episodes in August that some docs think is Menieres however I think they are positional. Interestingly, local radiologist noted seeing my styloids in the recent CT venogram. IM pretty certain I checked in 2022 to confirm styloids taken off at skull base in 2020. Down another rabbit hole but at least I know in this case, I am in good hands.

I do know the hEDS complicates my case as I have had two surgeries since ES, one for knee and most recently a spigelian hernia which I had hoped would relieve nerve pain in abdomen and it did not. My aging and hEDS is kicking in full tilt and I am struggling to provide providers that have a clue. Nothing new here!:cry: It almost always comes down to nerve compression and adhesions with me. Im pretty certain that is happening in neck but the positional vertigo with weird eye movement and hearing loss is another story. I dont think all the calcifications were removed in 2020 and we kinda know that surgeon doesnt focus at vascular compression at ALL!

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So hard to go through all those surgeries, & frustrating after the ES surgery especially… :hugs:

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Snapple,

thank you so much for your message – it really touched me. It means a lot to know you were thinking of me, especially during the times when I disappeared.

I’m really sorry you’re struggling again and that your first surgery didn’t address the vascular side properly. It makes total sense that you’re circling back to this now. Seeing Dr. Hepworth and his team in January sounds like a very good step – in my experience he’s extremely thorough, especially with complex vascular stuff, and he has an excellent surgery technique.

I really hope you’ll get some clear answers and a plan that actually moves things in the right direction for you.

I’ll be thinking of you as your appointment comes closer. If you feel up to it, I’d love to hear how it goes.

Wishing you calmer days and less symptoms ahead

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